Of course the chariots could just ride off to safety. If
they did, the Sea People were still there, advancing towards the nearest city. Sacking cities was the quick road to wealth and renown. They knew how to do it too.
Why didn’t the Chariot Warriors just shoot them down? I’m sure they did. But, there were lots of Sea People and they didn’t fear chariots. Nor did they stand still relying on their armour. Instead they attacked. Seeking to get within javelin range. A dramatic table top challenge then.
Below, the Sherden. Out of Sardinia they say. A lovely place to visit.
Can Lion Rampant v2 cope with this? I think it might well. This will involve a bit of slight of hand. Here is my LRv2
profile for the Sea People Warriors. The troop type
is “Warriors” with added javelins. Hopefully not too much violence to Dan's concept.
Models per
unit |
12 |
points |
7 |
Attack |
5+ |
Attack Value |
3+ |
Move |
6+ |
Defence Value |
4+ |
Shoot |
6+ |
Shoot Value |
5+ Range 6” |
Courage |
4+ |
Maximum Move |
8” |
Armour |
3 |
Special Rules |
Javelins, Flexible, Wild Charge, Counter Charge versus infantry, Fast. |
Models per unit | 12 | points | 7 |
Attack | 6+ | Attack Value | 4+ |
Move | 5+ | Defence Value | 4+ |
Shoot | 6+ | Shoot Value | 5+ Range 6” |
Courage | 4+ | Maximum Move | 6” |
Armour | 3 | Special Rules | Javelins, Veteran |
Models per unit | 12 | points | 7 |
Attack | 5+ | Attack Value | 3+ |
Move | 6+ | Defence Value | 4+ |
Shoot | 6+ | Shoot Value | 5+ Range 6” |
Courage | 4+ | Maximum Move | 8” |
Armour | 3 | Special Rules | Javelins, Flexible, Wild Charge, Counter Charge versus infantry, Fast. |
As I understand it not everyone agrees with Drews of course....
ReplyDeleteNice figures. I always think the way they are depicted on Egyptian monuments with blue, red and white makes for a nice colour palette.
Neil
I am really not in Drews' camp either on the demise of the chariot. Another fine-looking army. I await your battlefield trials!
DeleteThanks Jonathan. Chariotless Libyans facing 4 units of chariots to start with.
DeleteTrue enough Neil, in total and in detail. All the same he gave us something interesting. I was not convinced that all chariot warriors began with the bow. On the other hand I pretty much buy his Sea Peoples take.
ReplyDeleteNice figures, great additions to your project and a good read too, enjoying seeing your project taking shape as it's a period I know very little about.
ReplyDeleteThanks Donnie as you can see above it is still a much debated period.
DeleteIn reality, none of us really know what happened and how it all worked thousands of years ago, everything is just theory based on interpretation .... so in essence, we as non expert readers, simply choose the theory we like, or that convinces us.
ReplyDeleteAs an example, there is a lot of more modern, "revisionist " theory about the English longbow and how it wasn't as deadly as we used to believe....but Agincourt and Crecy still happened and had the same outcome, so I tend to think the longbow must have been pretty effective!
I recently watched something about the early period of the Roman's in Britain and Boudicca etc, which mentioned chariots and made the point they were an anachronism in most of the rest of the Roman world....something made them anachronistic, and it may well be the Sea Peoples tactics were the beginning of the end for chariot warfare?(or, maybe horses just got stronger and people thought "let's ride them instead of driving them?!)
True enough.
ReplyDeleteWe also have the issue of fashion among Historians to contend with. Once an orthodoxy is in place it is hard to shift. All the same orthodoxy is frequently overturned.
Some Historians feel the need to devise a narrative that serves present day political needs. This can be rewarding and lucrative. Even those who strive to be objective have subjective biases. We all do.
Fascinating stuff once again OB. I've always wondered about chariots as to why they simply didn't try to shoot the onagers, asses or horses, as one injured would be enough to cause lots of problems to say the least. Looking forward to your playtest to see how this all pans out:).
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve. My working hypothesis is that is that the animals being trained and the driver also were too valuable to kill. Of course that only works if you are a chariot based military.
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